I buy lots of records and I listen to once and I feel like that’s fine. It’s really like, no, the records should be fun to listen to. I think it’s really unfair to the records-and to the people making them-for that to be an expectation. I think there’s this idea now that every record has got to be this thing, like it’s the end of the world, and it needs to be the greatest thing ever.
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Most TV shows or movies you would only ever watch once. It’s like here’s an idea, and it’s okay if you’d only listen to the record once. When I buy old records from the ’60s, they were almost like magazines. There’s also this idea that every record is supposed to be a classic that you’re supposed to be able to play a hundred times and blah blah blah, but that’s not really the way most records were made. It doesn’t matter to me if it’s like, “Oh, wow, they’re using a crazy time signature in that song.” Who cares? Is it fun? I realize it’s all very subjective, but when I hear a lot of modern indie rock, I just have to think “Well, they don’t have the same values that I have.” What I’m looking for is personality. They just seem to have different values than I do.
When I look at, say, what’s on Pitchfork, it seems like they don’t care about personality. That’s really what you want, or at least that’s what I want. You want it to feel like it has a particular personality. You don’t really want music to be desperately original. Trying too hard just dilutes the flavor, you know? Now these chefs are like artists and they’re supposed to be, “Oh, well it’s so genius when he puts saffron in the ice cream, it’s so incredible that he put rosemary in the caramel.” That’s not what good food is typically. To be honest, music isn’t usually very good when it’s trying hard to be original. Part of that is it’s just fun to invent and create. I just love music and I love performing, more than anything. I get more positive response from the things I write, but the thing I love to do is make music and perform. Also, people don’t really care about the music I make. Do you ever feel stuck? Or is music this inexhaustible well that you can always draw from? You make lots of music with lots of different people. In fact, usually the stupider it is, the better. It’s easy and you don’t have to be that good at it. If you feel like you need to say something and you wanna make music, go make rock music. It’s gonna be that thing, the original rock ‘n’ roll thing. At the root of it, there’s this idea that rock ‘n’ roll is this stupid teenage pornography, but every time somebody wants to invoke authenticity or reality, it’s gonna be irrational, kind of stupid, and carnal. It could be anything anybody wanted it to be. It was eventually only made respectable because the British loved it. Some say rock ‘n’ roll is this dumb teenage expression akin to pornography or comic books.
I sometimes think it’s almost arbitrary how a person expresses themselves, as long as they do it. That’s changed a lot because now the arts are everything, but I’m talking about a different era when music was like, “Oh, this is the truth.” That’s where you wanted to direct your energy. Whereas the art thing felt very moribund and the only enthusiasm was institutional. I was going to art school and immediately was I like, “Well, the thing that I’m involved in, music, has the most energy and excitement right now.” Nobody was getting famous, nobody was being compensated in any way, but there was this incredible enthusiasm by the participants. The way that expression would come out might be really different.įor me-for my generation-it was rock and roll because rock and roll was the only thing that was affordable and accessible to us. Those people might’ve expressed themselves with music 50 or 60 years later or in some other way. The artists on the left bank in Paris at the turn of the century were working in the medium of oils because that’s what people valued at the time and that’s what people were paying attention to.
It’s very much contingent on the circumstance of their time. Are you someone who works better creatively within the context of a group?
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